We may or may not have from 1-8 more official case documents from this case. Unlike any other sleuthers, we have determined the main suspects in the case, have a good idea of what happened during the crime and what the crime scene looked like, and have recently figured out the motive. The last person on Earth to protect the killer is poor Becky Patty, God bless her mortal soul. Via LE Source A, we have learned that in both crimes: The following are unverified rumors with at least some probability of being true: Indiana LE did not validate the rumors about some aspects of the crime scene such as: This is probably one of the flat-out weirdest aspects of the case of all. I wonder how they made sure everyone on that team stayed tight lipped, especially after all of this time. No one has to believe me when I say LE has a main suspect, but there are number of suspects that ought to be put to rest. Thats because he was competition. I am friends with one of the parents and to my knowledge, no one has been told if this was sexual or not, only people have speculated. Delphi Murders if bodies were staged or posed what does that say about the killer Found an interesting article regarding the act of stating and posing bodies. This would explain how he could control two teens from running away as well as using a fake gun and badge. Five years later, Abigail Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, were taken into custody Friday five years after Allen, 50, was found dead on a hiking trail in Delphi, Indiana, in February 2017. We now have search party members who saw the crime scene; official case documents; the testimony of Leigh Kerr, a man who claims to have seen official case documents; accurate crime scene photos; and the best LE sources we have ever had. But many questions still remain around the murders of Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14. There was a knife sticking out of the log next to one girls head. Great to see you back on the case! The first sections deal with somewhat extraneous material that you may or may not find interesting. Investigators have never revealed how the girls died or disclosed details about the crime scene. It is an open case so anything else you want to know look and maybe you will find. We regard Leaker as credible, but we now demand sources beyond his level to be considered probative. Horrible. Of course, we empathize with their losses, but sympathy wears thin when someone is screaming in your face. This had been done on other occasions, at least one other we know of in the 2000s. So, to end my novel, I agree with you. Back to the POI, in February 2017, he lived next door to the cemetery which makes his actions and ruse around his truck & keys even more suspicious, if that is possible. Many people from the Delphi area have gone over to went over to Evansdale to work on plants over there. ? thats tough luck usually)I agree with him that it was probably Logan that gave the cops details on Kirts to get out of the clink The cops say the killer made a mistakeI bet it was probably something left behind in one of Logans barns or shacks. Sorry, Ive been a bit down lately. The warrant indicated that an FBI agent said Logans voice is not inconsistent with that of the person in the video.. Police officers announced about the Delphi massacre. On and on. His full name is Richard Matthew Allen. I love true crime and listen to a bunch of podcasts and books. He is described as a white male aged between 16 and 40 years old, between 5 6 and 5 10 in height and weighing between 180 and 200 pounds. Unverified but Likely. Give it a rest, everyone. What makes even less sense to me are some of the things that they have said or at least have not challenged as not being factual. Thanks again for the interesting and jaw dropping article!!! And two girls were abducted there also. Too much points to them to be coincidence. What do you all think?" The killer contacted Libby on social media using the "catfish" of a young man aged 19. Id prefer stuff thats in the papers. So, yes, although the Evansdale girls were mere skeletons when found, LE believes they were posed. A few people were claiming it was Abby leaned against a tree with her face covered in blood, claw marks on the ground, and a pool of blood a few feet away. Too many opinions and he cannot control them. Shock value towards anyone who finds the bodies and perverted pleasure seem like they can be intertwined. Im sure the guy does look at posts and stuff which is creepy as all hell. And although hes no no saint, I dont think he has it in him to commit a crime like this. I dont care what anybodys age is. Furthermore, when people say that I, Robert Lindsay, have no sources, no documents, on and on, please keep something in mind. . According to Garrett, it's unlikely Allen would be bloody if a gun was the only murder weapon, unless Allen handled the bodies in some manner. Also there are rumors that the girl left a note explain her pregnancy in a tree in her backyard. He lives in an ivory colored mobile looking home within the country. People really seem to take him at face value and think that because he is older, hes not capable of committing such a crime. Just thought I would draw your attention to it. Want me to put it up anyway? Then come email me and I will send you a link to the private group and a password to get you in. The sketch of the younger man is the catfish of the 19 year old boy used to lure in Libby from Snapchat. Recently moved to a small city nearby, possibly due to the heat of being a suspect in the crime. Much more on that below. If Libby was treated and posed differently it could indicate she was the actual target. Tony Kline is 65, 310 pounds! Hey Robert, absolutely love reading your blogs. Continue reading to find out what the alleged Delphi Murders leaked text messages are all about. One seems to be PNB and the other is RRB. The voice in the clip was described as being 'not inconsistent' with that of Logan, the FBI investigation concluded. Answers to questions about my credibility. She says if the girls help with her filing work, she . Please check out my YouTube channel, MsPsychic Sleuth. 12) Buried clothing of his stained with the girls blood on his property! But how could they possibly know this? The conviction is expunged. Chilling photo uploaded to Facebook a year after Delphi murders shows arrested man's daughter, 28, pose in SAME spot where victims took final snaps . In addition, note that he abducted two girls on the 13th, 2-13. Can you explain to me how LE would know that BG filmed his crime if he didnt send that crime footage to the girls phones? Cause of death of one girl was a deep cut to the throat. He thinks it is Garrett Kirts. Thats why all the smoke and mirrors. There is a suspected child killer in the Bay Area who is responsible for 5-10 child murders. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IIoxYhsduLQ, Protected: Post to Discuss All of the Various POIs and Theories in the Delphi Murders from the Crime to the Present, Protected to Avoid Libel and Character Assassination Part 10, Alt Left: This Is Almost Certainly the Single Most Inexplicable Series of Geopolitical Blunders in Recorded History, Alt Left: Add Iran to That Sino-Russian Alliance While You Are at It, NATO Helped the Ukrainians Fire All Those Drones at Russia, Including all the Way to Moscow, The Conquest of Germany and Japan Never Ended, The Conquest and Destruction of Russia Project Goes Way Back to Post World War 2, The Jewish Conspiracy To Subject Humankind. Oh, one more thing. He has a prosthetic foot due to diabetes, and no way could he high-tail it across that bridge. We openly admit that much of what we are saying about this crime are unverified rumors. This implies that the girls were returned to the scene later. See, Im not like how they say at all, am I? Not quite sainthood, but getting there. I see you may have particular interest in the Evansdale case due to proximity. It is being said that we are claiming all sorts of odd things about this crime, what happened, and the crime scene. Admitting his culpability only after lying to law enforcement, whom he first told that the girl shot herself while cleaning her weapon. So you try to make it look like theres an accident. They are within the video. Tough shit. John Miller, 63, was arrested in 2018 for the 1988 cold-case rape and murder of 8-year-old April Tinsley. Actually there are four suspects in this case and we are not naming any of them. Theyre Delphi related videos comparing his appearance to BG. They showed the boots in an evidence bag to the media later on that night, and they said, Oh, this is nothing. I love you and the information youre releasing! Not only that, but Mr. Xs alibi is that he was in another town from 2:15-3:15 PM on the day of the crime. Would you please email me? I am creating a special article about this to link to in order to deal with the constant hate comments in this regard so I dont have to keep going over this stuff in every update. The reason why I didnt send the letter was because I was moving across country and strongly felt as though law enforcement would not take my views seriously. They also think you get that way from your upbringing, especially with your father. Here's the Update in His Case. Plenty of time to get numbers, etc. For example, a rape victim being naked from the waist down and legs splayed might invoke shock but the victim was not posed specifically to shock- just left as is. Any context? Innocent people are hurt and killed in these cases, but theyre not really high profile and we dont have time to mess with this epidemic. She has been featured in Psychic Investigators, Paranormal Witness, and interviewed by Nancy Grace! Stay tuned. "We will get answers. Professor at a local university, known for the Geocaching Theory. Hes also thoroughly lawyered up, and hes not saying a word. This GPS device showed that his phone had been at the CPS building from 12-5 on the day of the murders. Photos of Abby Williams, left, and Libby German, right, at police headquarters in Delphi, Indiana. You are apparently a better sleuth than I am. Closeup of the 'fanny pack'. Been following your blog from the start, and this is so close to what I have been feeling for a while now. However, these are all unconfirmed rumors. If he is a poser, which is the worst of the worst, and he has a transport company, that gives him carte blanche to move around in committing more crimes of this nature in different parts of the country as he travels. Investigators said in the probable cause affidavit that they believe Allen is the man seen on the video. High Robert, A timeline establishing publicly known. And with the evidence they currently have, they havent proven it. He was searching for the girls. The problem here is that before 5:30 PM, no one knew the girls were missing other than the families and a few friends. And he never meets anyone for any reason. He will crack soon. The shocking new details about the murders that have rocked the community of Delphi, Indiana, for more than five years came to light in a search warrant obtained by podcast The Murder Sheet and shared with The Independent. To say these girls had things shoved in them without proof is horrible for their parents. I cant see where this is! Another document we have is another search warrant, this time for the Maxwell property. But Garrett said he doesn't understand how it took so long for an arrest. See? No one knows if they talked to Ron about Mr. X. I doubt it because Ron keeps saying the killer is this Garrett Kirts, and its not him. Five years ago today, in Delphi, Ind., two best friends, Abigail Williams, 13, and Liberty German, 14, went missing while on a hike through the city's . Investigators think the bodies of slain Delphi girls, Abby Williams and Libby German, were staged and moved at the crime scene, court documents obtained by The Murder Sheet podcast revealed; the shows founders joined Nancy Grace and her expert guests on Wednesdays Crime Stories to discuss the case. Video from one of the victim's phones shows a man on the trail wearing dark jacket and jeans. What it does do, however, is make LE appear to be slightly less incompetent for calling off that search if Abby and Libby were confirmed to have been deceased before the search even started. I cant demand that my friends give me money! I dont know this man very well, but he wasnt in on this crime. Do you know why FSG was there at the trails; how long hed been there; how he got there; if he drove, what sort of car he drove and where he parked it. But I see the home is raised. Your email address will not be published. Like a coward, we would add. If you believe the leaked texts were real (and I do), Abby's arms were not spread out and over her head. The girls bodies were discovered on his . before that he was at dump and after that he went to fish store. Point is that he may have never had ceased offending. not sure I agree . Kline is said to have arranged to meet with Libby on the Delphi High Bridge the day before she was murdered while walking along it. A statement was made that said the scene was horrific. The YouTube channel Zav Girl broke down the text messages in a video entitled "Text Messages from the Guy that found Abby and Libby? DELPHI, Ind. This was just the most underhanded, disgusting display of we need a fall guy, and LE should be ashamed of themselves. We believe this because this is what we were told. 4) He was married many years prior. Delphi murders: Killer staged bodies and may have taken souvenir, new documents reveal Shocking new details have come to light about the murders of best friends Libby German, 14, and Abby. Long, 22 pages. He has long been presumed to be their killer. Knives were also found at Allen's home, according to the affidavit. The act of leaving a victim's body in an unusual position is a conscious criminal action by an offender to thwart an investigation, shock the finder and investigators of the crime scene, or give perverted pleasure to the killer. She cited instances of abuse and alcoholism. However, I do not know how to contact you Sir. "I've always been concerned about how these two youngsters died. Not everyone was tied lipped, there were some rumors and messages on sm. Sometimes there are deliberate injuries to the mouth, including bullet wounds, as a sign that someone "talked.". where Liberty German and Abigail Williams were seen before they were reported missing by their families on Feb. 13, 2017. She has channeled her pain into grief and sadness. Only thing I can come up with if we go with the rumors is that he draped them with the sheet that had the smiley face on it perhaps? So he obviously kept a copy of that for himself. Mr Xs alibi is it true that the person who is now deceased is a police officer who committed suicide? I want you to know that your comment is no longer there. A newly unsealed affidavit claims investigators analyzed the bullet and determined it had been cycled through Allen 's gun. Some people are very insistent that Ron Logan is the killer. The shot showed Allen smiling with his wife, while in the background over his shoulder - mere feet away - a police sketch of of the Delphi murder suspect could be seen posted by a notice board on the wall. which has been viewed more than 18,000 times. The Indiana State Police on Friday made progress in the 2017 cold case, commonly known as the Delphi murders. A man was a suspect in this crime, and one document, a search warrant, are from LEs investigation of him. Bob Matlock, owner of the now-closed Jessies Bar & Grill, said Richard Matthews Allen and his wife were regular customers, often talking about the murders of 14-year-old Liberty Libby German and 13-year-old in 2017. Heavily redacted court documents say that state police and the FBI encountered Kline in 2017 while conducting a search warrant in Peru, Indiana. I think cycles finally straighten out at age 15. Little if any good information comes out of these places. "No, that's not her nor Libby," he wrote in his text response. Becky Patty: Obviously theyre not accusing her of the homicides! Clothing soaked in blood, seen and unseen. I doubt it. 13) Search Shell station footage in between 25 miles from crime scene throughout. And possibly even other rapes and homicides. Alex Oliveira For Dailymail.Com The boots appear to be Indiana Packers boots. BG must have fired his gun at some point in this crime. I happen to think he probably did it, but what do I know? This person was going to share the pictures regardless, they just wanted to be asked first to make themselves feel better is my guess. People are saying this is a coincidence, but apparently LE does not believe it is coincidental. In the Delphi case, a signature could be very evident if both victims . Incidentally, this LE detective thinks our police sources are all real sources and thinks we are on the right trail. All other POIs are dropped or cleared at least as being the killers themselves. Investigators released a still image from the video and a chilling audio of the man telling the two girls: Go down the hill.. That is all it can possibly be. Why would they NOT want to look for those types of things in a child murder with likely sa involved? I am sure he was asked. That is the statement from the woman on the search team. I saw the picture and while I could see the "face", I didn't see the rest of what people were claiming to see. The police have put a .40-caliber weapon into the case," Garrett said. It is important to note that the validity of the text messages has not and cannot be corroborated at this time. It is unclear when and where the photo was taken. It was also asked How did BG get across that knee-high stream in the middle of winter without nearly getting hypothermia? The girls would have also been subject to hypothermia?? People are saying that we have a copy of the gag order that was issued on the towing of the truck at the CPS building. Delphi, Indiana, police have been notoriously tight-lipped about the killings of 14-year-old Libby German and 13-year-old Abby Williams since the first news conference after the girls were found dead in February 2017. How do I do this? Obviously this is the only type of personality that is capable of podcasting an egomaniac on the other hand, their personality pathology limits the usefulness of their shows. The idea that a gag order was issued on this truck is an unconfirmed rumor. These guys are mostly narcissists and they dont believe in cooperation. Investigators have long suspected that this man is the girls killer and have praised the girls for documenting the video as evidence. This is simply because Ive dared to question if its possible that he was involved in any capacity or if its possible that he made misleading statements. After 5:30 PM, news of the girls going missing went out over the police scanner. What? Have you wrote about what the investigators talked to RL about? Apologies if this has been covered here before, but the rumor that Libby was found shirtless and nearly decapitated and that Abby was found still clothed and posed with her hands folded, does anyone know exactly how it originated and if there is anything circumstantial to back it . Ill leave it up to you to believe what you want to believe. We also have at least one other search warrant for another home. Where his truck was parked was a five minute walk to the crime scene. A Murder at Penn State; The case of Dana Bailey. Lawyered up, not talking. But my opinion isnt worth anything. How bout taking it to heed, everyone? FSG, or DMC: Probably shouldnt use his real name, but hes on everybodys suspect list. Do have any knowledge the workers from Indiana who were transferred over there in 2011-2012, which plant they came from Indiana and which plant they came to work on in Evansdale? Over the years numerous people have have been put forth as possible suspects in the case. She was found in an ivory/white dress. Meanwhile, Kegan Kline, an Indiana man accused of child exploitation and child pornography, says police told him he was the last person to communicate with one of the girls. The girls took photos while strolling across the bridge, but as time passed and their family didnt hear from them, police were called for assistance. As youve pointed out Mr. X did this before the search party had even assembled, right at the EXACT parcel of land that the girls bodies would be found the next day. And there are some good posters on r/LibbyandAbby; its just that they happen to be in the minority and all the best posters get downvoted to Hell and the people who are dead wrong get scores of upvotes! Please refresh the page or navigate to another page on the site to be automatically logged inPlease refresh your browser to be logged in, Shocking new details have come to light about the murders of best friends Libby German, 14, and Abby Williams, 13, in a search warrant obtained by podcast The Murder Sheet and shared with The Independent, Find your bookmarks in your Independent Premium section, under my profile, This grainy image was taken on Libbys phone on the trail the day the girls went missing. A handgun, in order to do ballistics tests on it. Would love to join the private group. Photos, videos, cameras, videocameras, and film. Shout out to anyone else who feels the same. And I appear quite harmless, too. 8) He drives an older model Ford Ranger type of truck. 21:06 GMT 30 Oct 2022 I realize unsolved would be a magnet for that but wow. Allen is a married pharmaceutical technician. See the photo Weve got a secret? We think the secret is that one girl is pregnant. What? . He was arrested on charges of child sexual abuse images and child exploitation tied to the account and admitted to grooming underage girls online. Thank you for all the work on the Delphi case. Which begs the question, if Mr. X is BG, how did he come to acquire a pair of Indiana Packers boots, which is what he appears to be wearing during his crime? It was stated that Libby was nude. FSG didnt recognize him either, and Im sure that FSG and Mr. X knew each other. She wanted to meet up with him. Instead they were penetrated with inanimate objects, which, last time I checked, do not cause pregnancy. My background is nowhere near close to any qualifications for this. So the stellar members of LE have RL arrested and sent to jail all the while knowing he couldnt have committed this crime but doing NOTHING to stop the entire community from believing, first, that RL was a main suspect in the case,, and second, believing that he was in jail because he was a suspect!
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