Please refer When Ventoy2Disk.exe Failed to Install, Please refer When Ventoy2Disk.exe Fail to Update, Yes. Yes. (I updated to the latest version of Ventoy). unsigned kernel still can not be booted. your point) and you also want them to actually do their designated job, including letting you know, if you have Secure Boot enabled, when some third party UEFI boot loader didn't pass Secure Boot validation, even if that boot loader will only ever be run from someone who has to have physical access to your computer in the first place. No idea what's wrong with the sound lol. WinPE10_8_Sergei_Strelec_x86_x64_2019.12.28_English.iso BOOT but Custom launcher cannot open custom path and unable access to special apps. Thank you! Menu Option-->Secure Boot Support for Ventoy2Disk.exe and -s option for Ventoy2Disk.sh For instance, if you produce digitally signed software for Windows, to ensure that your users can validate that when they run an application, they can tell with certainty whether it comes from you or not, you really don't want someone to install software on the user computer that will suddenly make applications that weren't signed by you look as if they were signed by you. its okay. Ventoy doesn't load the kernel directly inside the ISO file(e.g. However, some ISO files dont support UEFI mode so booting those files in UEFI will not work. V4 is legacy version. Secure Boot is disabled in the BIOS on both systems, and the ISO boots just fine if I write it directly to a USB stick with Fedora Image Writer. It . Click Bootable > Load Boot File. The only way to prevent misuse when booting from USB is to set a BIOS password (and perhaps a boot password), set the BIOS to not boot from USB and it won't hurt to also use an encrypted filesystem for the OS on the hard disk (bitlocker/LUKS). WinPE10_8_Sergei_Strelec_x86_x64_2019.12.28_English.iso BOOT but Custom launcher cannot open custom path and unable access to special apps. So, Ventoy can also adopt that driver and support secure boot officially. And that is the right thing to do. If you pull the USB drive out immediately after finish copy a big ISO file, most probably the file in the USB will be corrupted. Users have been encountering issues with Ventoy not working or experiencing booting issues. Ctrl+i to change boot mode of some ISOs to be more compatible Ctrl+w to use wimboot to boot Windows and WinPE ISOs (e.g. Well occasionally send you account related emails. Ventoy also supports BIOS Legacy. However, Ventoy can be affected by anti-virus software and protection programs. Already on GitHub? I'm not sure how Ventoy can make use of that boot process, because, in a Secure Boot enabled environment, all UEFI:NTFS accomplishes is that it allows you to chain load a Secure Boot signed UEFI boot loader from an NTFS partition, and that's it. Then I can directly add them to the tested iso list on Ventoy website. The main annoyance in my view is that it requires 2 points of contact for security updates (per https://github.com/rhboot/shim-review) and that I have some doubts that Microsoft will allow anything but a formal organization with more than a couple of people to become a SHIM provider. This means current is ARM64 UEFI mode. Just like what is the case with Ventoy, I don't have much of an issue with having some leeway, on account that implementing proper signature validation requires some effort, during which unsigned bootloaders may be accepted, so as not inconvenience users too much. Customizing installed software before installing LM. access with key cards) making sure that your safe does get installed there, so that it should give you an extra chance to detect ill intentioned people trying to access its content. You signed in with another tab or window. using the direct ISO download method on MS website. Currently, on x64 systems, Ventoy is able to run when Secure Boot is enabled, through the use of MokManager to enroll the certificate with which Ventoy's EFI executable is signed. Nierewa Junior Member. Again, the major problem I see with this fine discussion is that everybody appears to be tiptoeing around the fact that some users have no clue what Secure Boot is intended for (only that, because it says "Secure" they don't want to turn it off), and, rather than trying to educate them about that, we're trying to find ways to keep them "feeling safe" when the choices they might make would leave their system anything but. Ventoy does not always work under VBox with some payloads. (This post was last modified: 08-06-2022, 10:49 PM by, (This post was last modified: 08-08-2022, 01:23 PM by, (This post was last modified: 08-08-2022, 05:52 PM by, https://forums.ventoy.net/showthread.phpt=minitool, https://rmprepusb.blogspot.com/2018/11/art-to.html. With this option, in theory, Ventoy can boot fine no matter whether the secure boot in the BIOS is enabled or disabled. If you did the above as described, exactly, then you now have a good Ventoy install of latest version, but /dev/sdX1 will be type exFAT and we want to change that to ext4, so start gparted, find that partition (make sure it is unmounted via right click in gparted), format it to ext4 and make sure to . To add Ventoy to Easy2Boot v2, download the latest version of Ventoy Windows .ZIP file and drag-and-drop the Ventoy zip file onto the \e2b\Update agFM\Add_Ventoy.cmd file on the 2nd agFM partition. You can press left or right arrow keys to scroll the menu. MEMZ.img is 4K and Ventoy does not list it in it's menu system. ***> wrote: I have installed Ventoy on my USB and I have added ISO file: "Win10SupperLite_TeamOS_Edition.iso" 6. After the reboot, select Delete MOK and click Continue. It was actually quite the struggle to get to that stage (expensive too!) Heck, in the absolute, if you have the means (And please note here that I'm not saying that any regular Joe, who doesn't already have access to the whole gammut of NSA resources, can do it), you can replace the CPU with your own custom FPGA, and it's pretty much game over, as, apart from easy to defeat matters such as serial number check, your TPM will be designed to work with anything that remotely looks like a CPU, and if you communicate with it like a CPU would, it'll happily help you access whatever data you request such as decrypted disk content. *lil' bow* etc. Well occasionally send you account related emails. By default, the ISO partition can not be mounted after boot Linux (will show device busy when you mount). When ventoy detects this file, it will not search the directory and all the subdirectories for iso files. After install, the 1st larger partition is empty, and no files or directories in it. always used Archive Manager to do this and have never had an issue. Any ideas? Single x64 ISO - OK - Works and install.esd found by Setup - all Editions listed Dual 32+64 ISO - FAIL - Did not find install.esd file (either 64 or 32) \x64\sources\ and \x32\sources in ISO UEFI64 Boot: Single x64 ISO - FAIL - 'No boot file found by UEFI' ' Maybe the image does not support X64 UEFI!' https://abf.openmandriva.org/product_build_lists. may tanong po ulit ako yung pc ko po " no bootfile found for uefi image does not support x64 uefi" i am using ventoy galing po sa linux ko, gusto ko po isang laptop ko gawin naman windows, ganyan po lagi naka ilang ulit na po ako, laptop ko po kasi ayaw na bumalik sa windows mula nung ginawa ko syang linux, nagtampo siguro kaya gusto ko na po ibalik sa windows salamat po sa makakasagot at sa . for the suggestions. There are many kinds of WinPE. It only causes problems. Maybe the image does not support x64 uefi. () no boot file found for uefi. 4. ext2fsd unsigned kernel still can not be booted. Will polish and publish the code later. 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So maybe Ventoy also need a shim as fedora/ubuntu does. https://nyancat.fandom.com/wiki/MEMZ_Nyan_Cat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mv6Cbew_y8&t=1m13s. slitaz-next-180716.iso, Symantec.Ghost.Boot.CD.12.0.0.10658.x64.iso, regular-xfce-latest-x86_64.iso - 1.22 GB Fedora-Security-Live-x86_64-Rawhide-20200526.n.0 - 1.95 GB, guix-system-install-1.1.0.x86_64-linux.iso - 550 MB, ipfire-2.25.x86_64-full-core143.iso - 280 MB, SpringdaleLinux-8.1-x86_64-netinst.iso - 580 MB, Acronis.True.Image.2020.v24.6.1.25700.Boot.CD.iso - 690 MB, O-O.BlueCon.Admin.17.0.7024.WinPE.iso - 480 MB, adelie-live-x86_64-1.0-rc1-20200202.iso - 140 MB, fhclive-USB-2019.02_kernel-4.4.178_amd64.iso - 450 MB, MiniTool.Partition.Wizard.Technician.WinPE.11.5.iso - 390 MB, AOMEI.Backupper.Technician.Plus.5.6.0_UEFI.iso - 380 MB, O-O.DiskImage.Professional.14.0.321.WinPE.iso - 380 MB, EaseUS.Data.Recovery.Wizard.WinPE.13.2.iso - 390 MB, Active.Boot.Disk.15.0.6.x64.WinPE.iso - 400 MB, Active.Data.Studio.15.0.0.Boot.Disk.x64.iso - 550 MB, EASEUS.Partition.Master.13.5.Technician.Edition.WinPE.x64.iso - 500 MB, Macrium_Reflect_Workstation_PE_v7.2.4797.iso - 280 MB, Paragon.Hard.Disk.Manager.Advanced.17.13.1.x64.WinPE.iso - 400 MB, Passware.Kit.Forensic.2017.1.1.Win.10-64bit.BootCD.iso - 350 MB, orel-2.12.22-26.12.2019_13.14.livecd.iso - 1.1 GB, rocksolid-signage-release-installer-1.13.4-1.iso - 1.3 GB, manjaro-kde-20.0-rc3-200422-linux56.iso - 3 GB, OpenStage-2020.03-xfce4-x86_64.iso - 1.70 GB, resilientlinux-installer-amd64-2.2.iso - 2.20 GB, virage-beowulf-3.0-x86-64-UEFI-20191110_1146.iso - 1.30 GB, BlackWeb-Unleashed.19.11-amd64.hybrid.iso - 3 GB, yunohost-stretch-3.6.4.6-amd64-stable.iso - 400 MB, OpenMandrivaLx.4.2-snapshot-plasma.x86_64.iso - 2.10 GB Probably you didn't delete the file completely but to the recycle bin. It is pointless to try to enforce Secure Boot from a USB drive. All the userspace applications don't need to be signed. This ISO file doesn't change the secure boot policy. If you have a faulty USB stick, then youre likely to encounter booting issues. Tested ISO: https://github.com/rescuezilla/rescuezilla/releases/download/2.4/rescuezilla-2.4-64bit.jammy.iso. Although a .efi file with valid signature is not equivalent to a trusted system. So even when someone physically unplugs my SSD and installs a malicious bootloader/OS to it, it won't be able to decrypt the main OS partition. Ventoy can detect GRUB inside ISO file, parse its configuration file and load its boot elements directly, with "linux" GRUB kernel loading command. 1.0.84 BIOS www.ventoy.net ===> accomodate this. I don't remember if the shortcut is ctrl i or ctrl r for grub mode. 2There are two methods: Enroll Key and Enroll Hash, use whichever one. Finally, click on "64-bit Download" and it will start downloading Windows 11 from Microsoft's server. And I will posit that if someone sees it differently, or tries to justify the current behaviour of Ventoy, of letting any untrusted bootloaders pass through when Secure Boot is enabled, they don't understand trust chains, whereas this is pretty much the base of any computer security these days. In Linux, you need to specify the device to install Ventoy which can be a USB drive or local disk. Sign in If a user is booting a lot of unsigned bootloaders with Secure Boot enabled, they clearly should disable Secure Boot in their settings, because, for what they are doing, it is pretty much pointless. UEFi64? Test these ISO files with Vmware firstly. Windows 10 32bit if it's possible please add UEFI support for this great distro. I have used OSFMount to convert the img file of memtest v8 to iso but I have encountered the same issue. 2. Please follow About file checksum to checksum the file. The text was updated successfully, but these errors were encountered: tails-amd64-4.5.iso Legacy tested with VM The current release of Slax (slax-64bit-11.2.1.iso) fails to boot using UEFI64 using ventoy with the error message: I have tried the latest release, but the bug still exist. Yeah, I think UEFI LoadImage()/StarImage(), which is what you'd call to chain load the UEFI bootloader, are set to validate the loaded image for Secure Boot and not launch it for unsigned/broken images, if Secure Boot is enabled (but I admit I haven't formally validated that). eficompress infile outfile. Else I would have disabled Secure Boot altogether, since the end result it the same. for grub modules, maybe I can pack all the modules into one grub.efi and for other efi files(e.g. And they can boot well when secure boot is enabled, because they use bootmgr.efi directly from Windows iso. A least, I'd expect that a tutorial that advises a user to modify a JSON file to have done a bit more research into the topic and provide better advice. ParagonMounter Guid For Ventoy With Secure Boot in UEFI 1All the steps bellow only need to be done once for each computer when booting Ventoy at the first time. . and leave it up to the user. and leave it up to the user. Getting the same error as @rderooy. same here on ThinkPad x13 as for @rderooy Secure Boot is tricky to deal with and can (rightfully) be seen as a major inconvenience instead of yet another usually desireable line of defence against malware (but by all means not a panacea). its existence because of the context of the error message. Passware.Kit.Forensic.2017.1.1.Win.10-64bit.BootCD.iso - 350 MB Snail LInux , supports UEFI , booting successfully. The user has Ubuntu, Fedora and OpenSUSE ISOs which they want to load. So it is impossible to get these ISOs to work with ventoy without enabling legacy support in the bios settings? Will these functions in Ventoy be disabled if Secure Boot is detected? Thanks! Users may run into issues with Ventoy not working because of corrupt ISO files, which will create problems when booting an image file. Error description 5. ? Google for how to make an iso uefi bootable for more info. 7. It was working for hours before finally failing with a non-specific error. Ventoy2Disk.exe always failed to update ? But Ventoy currently does. That doesn't mean that it cannot validate the booloaders that are being chainloaded. All the .efi/kernel/drivers are not modified. In Windows, Ventoy2Disk.exe will only list the device removable and in USB interface type by default. Topics in this forum are automatically closed 6 months after creation. I would say that it probably makes sense to first see what LoadImage()/StarImage() let through in an SB enabled environment (provided that this is what Ventoy/GRUB uses behind the scenes, which I'm not too sure about), and then decide if it's worth/possible to let users choose to run unsigned bootloaders. Follow the guide below to quickly find a solution. No bootfile found for UEFI with Ventoy, But OK witth rufus. Format XFS in Linux: sudo mkfs -t xfs /dev/sdb1, It may be related to the motherboard USB 2.0/3.0 port. In a real use case, when you have several Linux distros (not all of which have Secure Boot support), several unsigned UEFI utilities, it's just easier to temporary disable Secure Boot with SUISBD method. I suspect that, even as we are not there yet, this is something that we're eventually going to see (but most likely as a choice for the user to install the fully secured or partially secured version of the OS), culminating in OSes where every single binary that runs needs to be signed, and for the certificates those binaries are signed with to be in the chain of trust of OS. Last time I tried that usb flash was nearly full, maybe thats why I couldnt do it. Have a question about this project? This option is enabled by default since 1.0.76. I really fail to fathom how people here are disputing that if someone agrees to enroll Ventoy in a Secure Boot environment, it only means that they agree to trust the Ventoy application, and not that they grant it the right to just run whatever bootloader anybody will now be able to throw at their computer through Ventoy (which may very well be a malicious bootloader ran by someone who is not the owner of that computer but who knows or hopes that the user enrolled Ventoy). You can use these commands to format it: https://github.com/ventoy/Ventoy/releases/tag/v1.0.33, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5NFuDCZQ00, http://tinycorelinux.net/13.x/x86_64/release/. 1.0.84 UEFI www.ventoy.net ===> This completely defeats Secure Boot and should not happen, as the only EFI bootloader that should be whitelisted for Secure Boot should be Ventoy itself, and any other EFI bootloader should still be required to pass Secure Boot validation. But it shouldn't be to the user to do that. Yeah to clarify, my problem is a little different and i should've made that more clear. @rderooy try to use newest version, I've been trying on a Dell XPS 13 9360 with Ventoy 1.0.34 UEFI running and Memtest86-4.3.7.iso does not work. Unable to boot properly. Have a question about this project? I would also like to point out that I reported the issue as a general remark to help with Ventoy development, after looking at the manner in which Ventoy was addressing the Secure Boot problem (and finding an issue there), rather than as an actual Ventoy user. Boots, but unable to find its own files; specifically, does not find boot device and waits user input to find its root device. I also hope that the people who are adamant about never disabling Secure Boot do realize that, as it stands, the current version of Ventoy leaves them about as exposed as if Secure Boot was disabled, which of course isn't too great Thankfully, this can be fixed so that, even when using Ventoy, Secure Boot can continue to fulfill the purpose it was actually designed for. If the secure boot is enabled in the BIOS, the following screen should be displayed when boot Ventoy at thte first time. The fact that it's also able to check if a signed USB installer wasn't tampered with is just a nice bonus. I've been trying to do something I've done a milliion times before: This has always worked for me. Ventoy Version 1.0.78 What about latest release Yes. And, unfortunately, with Ventoy as it stands, this whole trust mechanism is indeed broken, because you can take an official Windows installation ISO, insert a super malicious UEFI bootloader (that performs a Windows installation while also installing malware) and, even if users have Secure Boot enabled (and added Ventoy in Mok manager), they will not be alerted at all that they are running a malicious bootloader, whereas this is the whole point of Secure Boot! Parrot-security-4.9.1_x64.iso - 3.8 GB, eos-eos3.7-amd64-amd64.200310-013107.base.iso - 2.83 GB, minimal_linux_live_15-Dec-2019_64-bit_mixed.iso - 18.9 MB, OracleLinux-R7-U3-Server-x86_64-dvd.iso - 4.64 GB, backbox-6-desktop-amd64.iso - 2.51 GB I have installed Ventoy on my USB and I have added some ISO's files : Ventoy should only allow the execution of Secure Boot signed executables when Secure Boot is enabled, Microsoft's official Secure Boot signing requirements. I've tried Debian itself, Kubuntu, NEON, and Proxmox, and all freeze after being selected in the Ventoy menu. However, after adding firmware packages Ventoy complains Bootfile not found. Delete or rename the \EFI folder on the VTOYEFI partition 2 of the Ventoy drive. Already on GitHub? For secure boot please refer Secure Boot . I don't know why. Go to This PC in the File Explorer, then open the drive where you installed Ventoy. Again, detecting malicious bootloaders, from any media, is not a bonus. Win10_21H2_BrazilianPortuguese_x64.iso also boots fine in Legacy mode on IdeaPad 300 with Ventoy 1.0.57. Without complex workarounds, XP does not support being installed from USB. In that case there's no difference in booting from USB or plugging in a SATA or NVMe drive with the same content as you'd put on USB (and we can debate about intrusion detection if you want). relativo a la imagen iso a utilizar ", https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_mYChRFanLEdyttDvT-cn6zH0o6KX7Th/view Please refer github issue/1975, x86 Legacy BIOS, IA32 UEFI, x86_64 UEFI, ARM64 UEFI and MIPS64EL UEFI. @ValdikSS Thanks, I will test it as soon as possible. Maybe the image does not support x64 uefi . Its also a bit faster than openbsd, at least from my experience. evrything works fine with legacy mode. This is definitely what you want. And, for any of this to work, Ventoy would still need to independently solve the problem of allowing unsigned bootloaders pass through when Secure Boot is enabled @ventoy *far hugh* -> Covid-19 *bg*. I can provide an option in ventoy.json for user who want to bypass secure boot. You answer my questions and then I will answer yours MEMZ.img was listed with no changes for me. Could you please also try via BIOS/Legacy mode? On one of my Laptop Problem with HBCD_PE_x64.iso Uefi on start from Desktop error with Autoit v3: Pintool.exe Application error. Best Regards. If you allow someone physical access to your Secure Boot-enabled system, and you have not disabled USB booting in the BIOS (or booting from CD\DVD), then there is no point in implementing a USB-based Secure Boot loader. Ventoy is a tool to create bootable USB drive for ISO/WIM/IMG/VHD (x)/EFI files. also for my friend's at OpenMandriva *waaavvvveee* Level 1. So as @pbatard said, the secure boot solution is a stopgap and that's why Ventoy is still at 1.0.XX. I didn't expect this folder to be an issue. I didn't try install using it though. If that was the case, I would most likely sign Ventoy for my SHIM (provided it doesn't let through unsigned bootloaders when Secure Boot is enabled, which is the precise issue we are trying to solve) since, even if it's supposed to be a competitor of Rufus, I think it's a very nice solution and I'm always more than happy to direct people who would like to have a multiboot version of Rufus to use Ventoy instead. The thing is, the Windows injection that Ventoy usse can be applied to an extracted ISO (i.e. Oooh, ok, I read up a bit on how PCR registers work during boot, and now it makes much more sense. Some bioses have a bug. From the booted OS, they are then free to do whatever they want to the system. unsigned .efi file still can not be chainloaded. gsrd90 New Member. When secure boot is enabled, only .efi/kernel/drivers need to be signed. When the user select option 1. Let us know in the comments which solution worked for you. ISO: GeckoLinux_STATIC_Plasma.x86_64-152.200719..iso (size: 1,316MB) . Would disabling Secure Boot in Ventoy help? I thought that Secure Boot chain of trust is reused for TPM key sealing, but thinking about it more, that wouldn't really work. You can put the iso file any where of the first partition. Windows 7 32-bit does not support UEFI32 - you must use Win7 64-bit.. You may need to disable Secure Boot in your BIOS settings first (or convert the ISO to a .imgPTN23 file using the MPI Tool Kit). Menu. orel-2.12.22-26.12.2019_13.14.livecd.iso - 1.1 GB Do I still need to display a warning message? I rarely get any problems with other menu systems based on grub2\grub4dos\syslinux\isolinux, just Ventoy gives problems. Firstly, I run into the MOKManager screen and enroll the testkey-ventoy.der and reboot. Have a question about this project? Latest Laptop UEFI 64+SECURE BOOT ON Blocked message. Most likely it was caused by the lack of USB 3.0 driver in the ISO. However, considering that in the case of Ventoy, you are basically going to chain load GRUB 2, and that most of the SHIMs have been designed to handle precisely that, it might be easier to get Ventoy accepted as a shim payload. https://abf.openmandriva.org/platforms/cooker/products/4/product_build_lists/3250 Which brings us nicely to what this is all about: Mitigation. wifislax64-2.1-final.iso - 2 GB, obarun-JWM-2020.03.01-x86_64.iso - 1.6 GB, MiniTool_Partition_Wizard_10.2.3_Technician_WinPE.iso - 350 MB, artix-cinnamon-s6-20200210-x86_64.iso - 1.88 GB, Parrot-security-4.8_x64.iso - 4.03 GB espero les sirva, pueden usar rufus, ventoy, easy to boot, etc. They can't eliminate them totally, but they can provide an additional level of protection. Shim itself is signed with Microsoft key. Already have an account? An encoding issue, perhaps (for the text)? Even debian is problematic with this laptop. I test it in a VirtualMachine (VMWare with secure boot enabled). Great , I also tested it today on Kabylake , Skylake and Haswell platforms , booted quickly and well. @steve6375 Hey, I have encountered the same problem and I found that after deleting the "System Volume Information" folder on Ventoy partition of the USB disk, it can boot now. So all Ventoy's behavior doesn't change the secure boot policy. Users can update Ventoy by installing the latest version or using VentoyU, a Ventoy updater utility. Copy the efisys.bin from C: > Windows > Boot > DVD > EFI > en-US to your desktop 3. @DocAciD I don't have a Lenovo, ThinkPad or a ThinkCentre, Getting the same on TinyCoreLiInux (CorePlus), URL; http://tinycorelinux.net/downloads.html, The ISO must be UEFI-bootable and have a UEFI64 boot file \EFI\BOOT\BOOTX64.EFI https://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?t=4997. I you want to spare yourself some setup headaches, take a USB crafted as a Ventoy or SG2D USB that contains KL ISO files, directly. Ventoy loads Linux kernels directly, which are also signed with embedded Shim certificate (not with the certificate trusted by EFI DB). For instance, someone could produce a Windows installation ISO that contains a malicious /efi/boot/bootx64.efi, and, currently, Ventoy will happily boot that ISO even if Secure Boot is enabled.
