Because she was failing quite miserably at remaining pure and chaste, she was expelled after only a year, and thus, she returned to her parents home in Arizona. So, were there any other attempted carjackings in the area that night? Did CK shoot at car when DD drove away? This happened in 1983, not 1893. Brewer changed his mind. Children imitate their parents every move. It was also said at trial that the shooter would have been left handed, which was not the case for Diane. Why Ruth Bader Ginsburg Refused to Step Down - The New York Times Rule defended her right to earn a living and to tell her story. 2023 Cinemaholic Inc. All rights reserved. And they kept at her and made suggestions when she would not implicate her mom. I found nothing. I believe DDs case needs to be re looked at and all evidence reviewed. Exactly Libby why did they say during the trial that he saw his mom? Then, they accused her of shooting her kids at close range. They are the ones who supposedly (according to Diane) screwed her up so badly. During Dianes examination at trial, Fred Hugi said in front of the jury, in the form of a question, that she had been diagnosed as a , Anne Rule made a big deal of a brass unicorn engraved with the childrens names that Diane had purchased. Like I said, the 2 years make it a bit more of a gray area. The blog I read is all about the improprieties and flat out misconduct in Dianes trial (and the way Ann Rule profited off of it with fiction). By the way, that interview with Christie by a biased advocate named Angel borders on abusive. Ultimately, the blogger is entitled to their opinion as is everyone else. 3. Its more understandable now, after all this time but it has done her so much harm, then and now Jen Taylor . Her quest for love had landed her into an unstable and loveless marriage. She functions best in highly structured environments where she has a sense of control. Also, their union was turbulent ever since the beginning as Diane was reportedly disappearing with her children for long periods. Right after her first surgery, The Detectives were adamant that they HAD to have Diane right then to recreate the incident- unless of course, you have something to hide. You dont get any kind of advancement or rehabilitation in prison. In fact, watching that was the first time I heard her voice and saw her presence, it was a year or so later that old interviews showed up on YouTube. It should have been investigated further. Only after these avenues are exhausted should non-relative placement be looked at. An earlier commenter wrote that it doesnt matter that the trail or the investigation was faultyWHAT !? The person leaned into the car. So imagine when you are troubled to begin with. This is what I try to do when I research a case that was deemed to be a slam dunk. The blogger continues, I am not one sided. I mean, yeah, I can see the no contact order with Diane. And according to the law, she should have been released by now, independently of what she says or not. Because she seemed "aloof". Where is the blood spatter on Diane? Oh 1 more thing I see a lot of comments on pro Diane web sights that say well she drove them to the hospital. The prescribed normal dosage for a full grown man is 30 milligrams per day. I will agree that it was suspicious that Diane got away with one bullet in the arm, even if the injury was severe, but she was outside the car and many scenarios are possible to that effect. She has an excellent conduct report and never reacted violently to any of the harassment from other inmates. The detective said to leave that up to the police. And when kids are hurt, emotions keep flowing endlessly. At first I thought she did it, now I made further research and I dont know what to think. Oh my. I agree with your comment. Q. And of course, she added her own brand of paranoia, which is to be expected considering her personality disorder and what she went through. This whole case is flawed. They had high hopes for Dianes future and this bad boy was not part of it. But strangely, they took no photos of the crime scene and did not lift fingerprints from the drivers side of the car. Susan, I dont know if there ever was a lawsuit against Ann Rule from the Fredericksons family. She felt fulfilled when she was pregnant because she believedit was the road to unconditional love. I watched the highlights of her hearing. The definition of deviant sociopath does not even exist in the DSM-HI: Downs lawyer at the time should have objected as the term was non existent. The fact that they used her daughter and lied about the gun they could never find makes it a wrongful conviction. Any thoughts on how the detectives basically made up their mind right away in spite of numerous tips coming in? They felt safe there. It could have been very different at almost any other time or with any other attorneys or juries too. I base a lot on what I see and hear from her in her own words in footage of a 28 yr old woman. The time was spent waiting for the clock to tick down the final seconds for all appeals to the parental termination to be allowed. Inflammatory and speculative You paint a picture that is actually inaccurate and misleading. Click 'See First' under 'Follow' Tab to see Tuko.co.ke news on your FB Feed. One of them named Angel, called 15-year-old Christie on the phone. A fact strongly denied by Diane and by the nurses reports. During the process of the termination (which can take the whole 2 years in question, with appeals) the court is mandated to find family to take the children. James C. Jagger who was hired by Dianes father was an ex-Prosecutor. Yes Gigi, the same judge who had removed the children was also presiding over her trial. It really doesnt matter that much of the trial and due process was faulty, because its so obvious that Diane is the one who did it and that justice was served. It sounds like this was not the case with Dianes children. On May 19, 1983, Diane and her kids visited a friend to look at her new horse, and then went for a drive; not at all unusual for this family not living according to middle class rules. I am so tired of the victims being forgotten. The diagnosis of the psychiatrist for the state is also clearly documented. And she laughed at it by saying it was healthy to want to join the free world, especially if you proclaim your innocence. You cannot skip due process because of mob mentality. Her children deserved the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Even Ann Rule in her book, keeps mentioning that they only had a few months to get Christie to talk, otherwise they could not keep her away from her mother any longer. The fate of Steven Downs, a 47-year-old nurse from Auburn, Maine, is now in hands of a 12-person jury in Alaska. But there were discrepancies; the tool marks did not matchand the detective lied on the stand about it. In a perfect world this would always be the case. Downs: Oh yeah, I remember the pictures, too. Doing it without witnesses when she was so sick is underhanded. Her arm was severely damaged, so shattered that she needed a graft from a hip bone. You are wondering about the question why didn't steve downs get custody but currently there is no answer, so let kienthuctudonghoa.com summarize and list the top articles with the question. They were put in an impossible situation. It seems that not being American might help us view the case and Rules narrative with more objectivity. Seems like former husband, Steve Downs, should've been the custodial I watched and worried through her escapeto find her childrens real attackerthat bushy haired stranger . Search within r/halo . I am just curious. There is no way that a jury would convict Diane today, based on the clearly coached testimony of Christie. Downs is a worthless as the day is long.. Maybe you should read the blog before commenting. Instead, the person accused of attacking them and wanting them out of her life, fought for them. The underlying basis of this article. Very little is definitively known in this area. I dont believe there was a CK. In 2008, a psych evaluation by L. Williams, Ph.D., Chief of Mental Health at Valley State Prison for Women, explained Dianes lack of emotions and its relationship to her case. Problem with that is Diane has said during an interview with detectives that the sketch looks nothing like what she described. It was flawed. The tape is real and probably not admissible, but it seems to indicate that her testimony was coerced. Gunpowder is one of the toughest stains around, when it comes to removing it from clothes. Even on a worldwide scale, the age of accountability is considered to be twelve years old. I tried to contact you by email but my email wouldnt acknowledge you email address. And, when she got assigned to the mail routes in the city of Cottage Grove, Oregon, as a part of her job with the U.S. postal service, he didnt have any qualms with her taking the children. Q. The definition of deviant sociopath does not even exist in the DSM-HI, which is the official psychiatric diagnostic manual. Diane recanted the stories about her dad who vehemently denied them. One of the flaws was the relationship between the DA and the children. Within a few weeks, the kids who had survived were placed in protective custody and were no longer in Steve's care. A group of ladies formed a group called HELDD which stands for Help Exonerate & Liberate Diane Downs. Besides, none of those diagnoses are illegal. Considering the circumstances, it is difficult not to be a bit cynical about this grand gesture: relevance? But people never want to touch the high profile cases where the defendant is not likable. It gave Anne Rule carte blanche to legally use these labels in her book and it stuck. No. Tis why at 10 years old I was hearing about this case in Ohio, and family members talked about it around me.it hit with great force that way. A prosecutor inventing a new psychiatric category in court and labeling the accused is kind of unsettling. It was known as Manic Depression. They both fainted when they saw their dead child, but it did not count. Despite all these misgivings, they chose to stay strong in the marriage and had their first child, Christie Ann, in 1974. The fact that she took the kids to the nearest hospital, andtwo of them survived kind offlies in the face of their murder at all costs theory. Yeah, Ive noticed a lot of people thing Jim Jagger is Fred Hugi. After a failed marriage that got her a divorce from Steve Downs, she wanted to be with her lover. View theaffidavits. But you dont mention that she again has changed her story. She was interrogated without a representative from the defense and was not taped for the most part. Also, aside from her original mental state, which may or may not excuse her aloofness (doesnt prove shes a killer by the way! Now if the shooter was this James Haynes guy, someone who apparently Diane Downs knew from buying drugs, then that would explain why she stopped in the middle of that road. To Lisa Griggs People can have a certain vibe and act out of the norms, but it does not make them necessarily guilty. 6. As Ms. Patterson left the stand, Diane complained to her attorney that Ms. Patterson had lied under oath. Andthe DA adopted her other two children. Of course buying drugs with three kids in the middle of the night from a guy like that is not the mindful thing to do, but would be more consistent as an explanation for her actions. It does not contradict what I said, but what they said. He has lived a life outside the public eye and hasn't ever come out to give interviews to the media about his ex-wife. Diane wanted to wait for her daughter to feel better, be accompanied by an expert and have the meetings taped? So I did not post your comment about his answer to your inquiry. Too bad it triggered you, maybe try to stay away from sites that might not go along with the mob mentality and usual media narrative. Dr. Joshua Budhu is a neuro-oncologist at Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center. Found the internet! But Diane was not the one dragging Knick out of Charlenes bed every morning intent on making or breaking his relationship with another woman. Diane downs. She did it. He should have let someone else handle the case or let someone else adopt the kids. Dianes brother, James, sat in court one day andnoticed Foote looking at Hugi before ruling on an objection. It was writtenrepeatedly in the daily notes that the children were happy to see their mom and asked for her. Legally speaking, we do not go after people because they look evil or crazy. A history of use of drugs, alcohol or even cigarettes can all be deemed as counts against a parent in court. Also, she became pregnant without Steve Downs' permission. Nothing in this blog claims Diane is innocent. Guilt or innocence no longer need to be debated in this case. She had not fired a gun. It is because she is a high profile person. During a trial, we have to go with evidence only. She did not fit in and was now anxious to assert her independence and live her own life. It is a research done on the case according to many sources. Instead, there is blood splatter on the ceiling of the car. If she did have memories of the actual shooting, that would be very rare. Because Foote was already familiar with the case, the presiding judge assigned him the murder trial after Downs was charged with the shootings. The fact that she drove there and it saved the life of two of her children should give anyone pause. ..it is quite possible if she was tried in todays world, with the evidence they hadquite possible it would of went differentlywe been living in a society that pretty much demand 100% pure forensic evidence provenprobably over 10 years or longer, people expect trials to be that of a law and order TV show..I cant say thats a bad thing, or makes what happened in the 80s on back bad. Ive been to London to Fly the Queen ~ and Back to Collect Artifacts, Haleigh Cummings Was Once Lost but Now She Is Found, Meet Rene Acoby: In-House Female Dangerous Offender, Kelli Stapleton- A Mothers Wuthering Woes. The states own witness, Dr. George Suckow and Dr. Polly Jamison denounced Prosecutor Hugis practice as improper and unethical (Appendix 101 and 104). The rest of the family? They were tons of witnesses that saw him at work. And to say that her mental health has degraded is an understatement, but more reason not to keep her eternally incarcerated. At what point during these meetings did she start calling him Dad? All of it is explained in the blog you didnt bother reading. This case needed to be examined more thoroughly, but the mob mentality didnt allow it. Be the first to get hottest news from our Editor-in-Chief, Check your email and confirm your subscription. Theres a lot to be said here, still. Imagine knowing that your adoptive dad was responsible for putting your natural mom in the slammer? You have a photo of Diane before the parole board. The problem was, Diane has a long-documented history of adversely reacting to tranquilizing drugs. The Pros and Cons of Getting Sole Legal Custody - Verywell Family He knows as he was in court and must have photos. It was demonstrated at trial that the shooter shot the kids at close range. Devoting ur life to taking down a dead author is a waste of ur talents. During his travels, he visited prisons and spoke against this type of barbarism because his father was imprisoned for a debt of 40 pounds and 10 shillings when he was twelve years. If she was such a manipulative person, she would not be in prison for life, would she? Wow does he ever look different than how they portrayed him in the TV movie. For the upcoming Halo TV show, original Master Chief voice actor Steve Downes was recast, despite Cortana voice actor Jen Taylor reprising her role from the iconic video game franchise. Again I go back to how times were back then. You mention that her attorney should have raised objections. The gun is Def a big issue, the style of gun, whether it belonged to him or her, she Def had access to itthe child drew a picture of it, having large similarity to that gunbut it did always baffle me how she could find such a great hide for it in such a short period of time. The problem with high profile cases is that the media, the DA, the cops and authors like Ann Rule dictate the narrative and it becomes almost impossible to look any other way unless you are a critical thinker devoid of emotions related to the case. I know several people who know or knew both of the surviving children as well as Diane. Diane was pregnant during the trial so if found not guilty, how would she have regained the love of her life? Just goes to show how difficult it is sometimes to find the truth. Her family supported her. After all, Cheryl Downs is basically serving a life sentence with no possibility of parole for her mothers crime. Page 26 of Case History. Danny said several times that a bad man shot them and it was written in the nurses notes, but never that his mother shot him. By the time Danny was born, they were having intense arguments about infidelity that Steve got convinced that he wasnt his biological son. One of the jurors finally declared. Modernism mixed with Medieval state of mind. She even provided the police with her own sketch. USA population seems to shun complex ethical problems preferring to deal with absolute evil in order to exert absolute power to crush it. But the birth of little Danny did not make this bad boy change his stripes; he remained a cad and a destabilizing force in their lives. The character of the accused is not the main ingredient, especially that in this case, there was a lot of bashing going on in the media and in court. But I think that in all fairness, many of them dont even know the details of the case and have watched Small Sacrifices instead. They were the small sacrifices. You mention her youngest daughter, and how Ann made sure she only heard negative information about Diane.. I dont disagree, I just think it is another example of flaws in our justice system. 4. I had visited Dr. Billings site several times and it is too bad that it was removed. Crime is entertainment and big money so this case will continue to be on the forefront and the same assumptions will be repeated over and over again. Most doctors would tell you that it is normal for our brains to block out a traumatic incident especially when combined with a serious physical injury. I found your blog to be very well written, informative and interesting. Diane Frederickson was born August 7, 1955 in Phoenix, Arizona. But what happened to Diane Downs' husband? She s. I didnt know that. They came up with an explanation as to why this was the wrong gun but the jig was up. The bushy haired stranger that police had gotten a lead on worked at the country club he was at work at that time and had a sever speech impediment. She did it. The reason she is likely locked up is because she was diagnosed with narcissistic, histrionic and anti social personality disorder, that makes her a very dangerous person (especially since she is a murderer). If there is one thing Diane knew about her lover, is that he was fickle and did not like trouble of any kind. She'd also shot herself in the forearm. Dianes ex-lover, Robert Knickerbocker, also said the same. This was the prosecution and conviction of (Elizabeth) Diane Downs who has now been incarcerated for too many years in one of Californias (overcrowded) State prisons. Criminalist James Pex was pretty clear about this. My guess is the grandparents were so overwhelmed with Dianes case that they let the system take care of the kids at first. tell someone else. Blood, cuts, limo driver who saw him come in, the shoe print, the blood in the car and on the socks in his bedroom. Two wrongs do not make a right but illustrates that she should have never been coerced before, during or after the trial. I would like to believe this is the truth. http://www.glamour.com/story/i-found-out-my-mother-was-a-killer-the-rebecca-babcock-story. So, what happened to the children's father? And the motive? Why did they let her daughter testify when she could not know who shot her and said so incessantly until they made her say what they wanted? Someone can have an evil vibe and not be guilty of a crime. As a suggestion, I would love to see a like or dislike button for each comment. You are not the only one who thinks she is guilty and I know that getting their man at all cost is a popular mantra, but I disagree. All Rights Reserved. It is said that their union was loveless and that Steve was a player who was also quite irresponsible and immature from time to time. U seem very one sided on every case Ann Rule has ever written just as u claim she did to u. N her parents didnt want custody of the children just like the father. Once you are vilified in the media in the US, the way Downs and others have been, a lot of people shut their eyes and their mind to any other possibility than what was presented in the court of public opinion. She has done her time in prison and I hope that she gets the chance to get out and spend time with her mother and siblings. Sad situation. A trial should be based on facts and solid direct or circumstantial evidence. All the reports and even the warden thought she was not a threat anymore. The powers that be knew they had nothing on Diane so Christie became their sacrificial lamb: opinion, not fact The fact that the children were in no way protected by Child Protection Services is undeniable. Right?? Bannon, a former adviser . I am not her advocate, but I think she did not get due process. It became judicial kidnapping to obtain a coerced confession. Her 7-year old daughter Cheryl died but her 3-year old son Danny and her 8-year old daughter Christie survived. It is normally done (in fact in many jurisdictions, can ONLY be done) by going through the process in a different state or county then the one the applicant works with. HUGE conflict of interest. They now have social media arenas reminiscent of the Romans cheering at the sight of a thumb down meaning there will be a bloodshed. Here are the pros and cons of sole legal custody. It is not, as the blogger frequently refers to, evidence. The bitches own daughter identified Downs as the shooter. This article is about due process and the legal right to a fair trial for everyone. I understand that the authorities were afraid to leave the two remaining children under her care if they thought she was guilty, but they could have been released to the grandparents or other blood relatives with supervised visits from their mom considering that she was not charged with any crime.
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